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ReplyDeleteWhat happened to Kamal's son?
ReplyDeleteYou mean Kamal himself?
DeleteOn the bottom of page 120 Kamal's father was talking to Baba about Kamal. It sounded like Kamal's issues may have come from witnessing what happened to Hassan.
DeleteBut on 124. His son suddenly stopped breathing. And then Kamal shoots himself. What happened to his son?
DeleteI think he is secretly jealous and envious of Hassan.
ReplyDeleteAmir is jelous of Hassan
DeleteWhy would Amir be Jealous of Hassan. Amir can have anything he want and he didn't get raped by Assef
DeleteI agree. And honestly, I don't really blame him. His father treats him like he's the servent and Hassan is his son.
Delete*still mad at Amir though*
Amirs dad treats Hassan better and he isn't even his son
DeleteHassan is athletic and a better person then Amir. Hassan is more like the son Baba wants then Amir. Baba said it himself ""If I hadn't seen the doctor pull him out of my wife with my own eyes, I'd never believe he's my son."
DeleteBrett I disagree because Hassan is still a servant.
DeleteYa Amir has the ability to get anything he wants whenever he wants it but, Hassan has always caught Baba's attention and Baba has treated Hassan more like a son compared to Amir (affection wise)
DeleteBaba says "You're the brother I never had, Ali, you know that." I think Baba loves Hassan like a son because Hassan is his "brother's" son and I think Amir is jealous that he is not the only son that Baba cares for.
DeleteHow long does it take for sins to be absolved?
ReplyDeleteI don't think your sins can ever be absolved, they can only be forgiven.
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ReplyDeleteKamal watched his son stop breathing, therefor his son died
DeleteWhat exactly happened in Afghanistan that made Baba and Amir leave?
ReplyDeleteBaba and Amir left because Russians are invading.
DeleteWhat do you think was going through Amir's head when Baba said come to my office?
DeleteDoes Amir regret winning the tournament after everything that had happened after that?
ReplyDeleteI don't think that he regrets getting his father's respect but he regrets what he witnessed in the alley.
DeleteYes I think Amir regrets winning the kite tournament. If he didnt win Hassan never would of been raped and Amir wouldnt feel guilty for not saying anything
DeleteNo because he regrets not saying anything when it was happening he thinks he should of sad something.
DeleteI think he regrets not standing up for Hassan more then winning the tournament. He could have still won the tournament and still saved Hassan.
DeleteAmir doesn't necessarily regret winning the tournament because he didn't know about what would happen after he won the tournament. He does regret the fact that he did nothing when Assef rapes him.
DeleteWhy did Kamal's father shoot himself
ReplyDeletehis son stopped breathing
DeleteKamal's father just lost his wife because someone shot her and since his son had just died somehow, he probably didn't want to be without them so he decided to kill himself.
Deleteso the father killed himself just so he didn't have to watch his son suffer?
DeleteWhat the heck happened when the Russian was holding up the gun to Baba's face and then a gun went off but neither one of them were dead? "The gun roared" Pg 116
ReplyDeleteI think he shot in another direction so he won't hit Baba. Or someone hit the gun to it won't hit anyone.
DeleteWhat happened was that the second officer shot a warning shot to let the first officer know to stop his fire. "But the whirlwind of half thoughts spinning in my head came to a halt when I cracked my eyelids, found Baba still standing. I saw a second Russian officer with the others. It was from the muzzle of his upturned gun that smoke swirled. The soldier who had meant to shoot Baba had already holstered his weapon."page 117
DeleteAmir framed Hassan so that Hassan and his father would be fired
ReplyDeleteHe felt so much shame about not saving Hassan, that he couldn't bear to be around him anymore. Amir wanted Hassan to be mad at him, but Hassan continued to care for Amir. Amir just had so much guilt that's why he wanted them gone.
DeleteI think he framed Hassan because he wanted to get rid of him so that he wouldn't have to see him.
ReplyDeleteWhy wouldn't he want to see him?
DeleteHe framed Hassan so that he would get in trouble with Baba, and then Amir might get some attention from Baba.
ReplyDeleteI disagree. He just wanted to have Hassan and his father leave.
DeleteAmir realized that even though Hassan is not in the same social class as himself, he can have a good heart and can make good decisions.
ReplyDeleteI think that Amir wishes he had more love in his life and that he got more presents. Both Amir and Hassan have differences and they dont always get along.
ReplyDeleteHow will they make a new life in Pakistan
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ReplyDeleteI think why Amir framed Hassan is to get him out of the house because he couldn't live with the guilt of what he saw and it was tearing him down. So he had to frame him to get rid of the guilt.
ReplyDeleteWhy are they moving to Pakistan?
ReplyDeleteThe are moving to Pakistan because of the Russians.
DeleteI was very surprised that Amir did not confess to putting the items under his mattress.
ReplyDeleteWhy would he confess?
DeleteHe says if he told the truth "Baba would never, ever forgive me." I think that he wants his father's respect more than he wants Hassan to be innocent.
DeleteThe question about why Amir framed Hassan brought a couple questions to mind.
ReplyDeleteIn the very beginning of Chapter nine, Amir uses the term "blood money" to describe his presents. What significance does this term have in the overall theme of the novel? How about after Amir saw what happened to Hassan? Do you think his thought process is skewed since he framed Amir?
I think that the term blood money is money that was earned in a bad way, for example killing someone and taking all their money or belongings.
DeleteLooking at Kamal's father's reaction to Kamal's death on the bottom of page 124, what do you think Baba would do if Amir died?
ReplyDeleteI think that if Amir died then he would realize what he had lost. Even though Amir is nothing like Baba he is still his son and Baba would defenitely miss him.
DeleteI think he would be devastated. Amir is still his son and I think that Baba knows that Amir is sometimes full of himself but he still loves him no matter what, and cares about him deeply.
DeleteI think Baba would be upset but not to the point that he would kill himself. I mean he loves his life how it is. I mean he would miss his son and remember him because he lost one of his own family members, but he would probably find other wife or something.
DeleteHow come Kamals father shoots himself in the mouth? "But before they could say anything Kamal's father shoved the barrel in his own mouth." Pg 124
ReplyDelete-Didn't they make it to Pakistan where they wanted to go?
Well Kamal's father had jut lost his wife and his son had stopped breathing so maybe he found no reason to live without his family?
DeleteKamals son stopped breathing and he got angry. On page 124 "He wont breath! my boy won't breath!" He was crying. Kamal's lifeless body lay on his fathers lap." They had not made it to Pakistan yet.
DeleteGoing back to chapter 8, why do you think Assef beat up Hassan, even though he has already raped him and done horrid things to him? Why doesn't he stop?
ReplyDeleteWhat do you think it will take for him to stop?
I think he had a lot of built up anger and he just let it all out.
DeleteWell he is mentally ill and so it will take a lot because he needs to go away. He is really hurting Hussan and so he neeeds to be taken somewhere
DeleteAssef was still angry from before and he still did not like Hassan at all. I think that it will take him to get caught and be in trouble for him to stop.
DeleteHe is just crazy. He can't get over that fact that Hassan didn't summit to him and he probably likes to see people in pain (Creepily enough). So mostly Assef is just crazy.
DeleteI think Amir framed Hassan because he wanted to relieve him from the pain of what happened. Amir felt that it was his fault that Hassan was raped and framing him would get rid of his guilt.
ReplyDeleteI think Baba was ashamed of Amir because Amir doesn't always act like a man and he does things to embarrass Baba like getting car sick.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree
DeleteWhy did Kamal's father shoot himself?
ReplyDeleteHis wife had just died and his son had stopped breathing so I think he killed himself because he didn't want to live a life without the people he loved.
DeleteAmir realized that Hassan would do absolutely anything for Him.
ReplyDeleteBut he wouldn't do the same or Hussan because He is lower thean him and doesn't really think anything of it.
Deletewhy did Hassan lie about stealing the stuff? Hassan has already been through a lot of trouble
ReplyDeleteMaybe he was trying to protect someone
DeleteIn the book they said Hassan never lies. He is honest and would do anything to protect Amir.
Delete"Someone was screaming. No, not screaming. Wailing, I saw the passengers huddled around in a circle, he heard their urgent voices. Someone said the word 'fumes'. Someone else said it too. The wail turned into a throat-ripping screech." I'm still pretty lost on what happened here. I guess it was pretty bad but I'm not completely sure.
ReplyDeleteKamal had just died because of the fumes in the gas tank and so Kamal's father is crying because of the loss and everyone is gathered around him
DeleteDid Amir truly have a duty to Hassan when Hassan was getting raped? I am surprised that Amir didn't do anything, but as we discuss, it makes the point more clear. Would Amir really have lost? Did he have a chance?
ReplyDeleteI don't think he would have, but he still would have been doing the right thing.
DeleteI think Amir wasn't really Hassan's friend in his mind, but more of a "puppet" he can play with and manipulate, but not be on the same level as it.
ReplyDeleteYeah I think he was kind of more of a glorified servant in his mind.
DeletePg #102- "Either way, this much had become clear: One of us had to go." This quote shows the point at which Amir had decided either he or Hassan had to leave so the tension would be over with.
ReplyDeleteWhy doesn't Baba force Hassan and Ali to leave immediately after Hassan was guilty of stealing?
ReplyDeleteHe might have wanted to say something to him.
DeleteOn page 106 Baba says to Ali "You're the brother I never had, Ali, you know that." I think that Baba loves both Ali and Hassan like family and he is willing to forgive Hassan because he loves him as his own son.
DeleteIt says on page 105 on the bottom Baba says "I forgive you" He also says "You're the brother I never had, Ali" And that right there is why Baba wants Ali and Hassan to stay.
DeleteI believe Amir realized that Hassan would do anything for him. Amir just wanted Hassan to be angry at him.
ReplyDeleteI agree.
DeleteI agree also.
DeleteI also agree.
DeletePg 118 "I'll tell you why," Baba snapped. "Because he got paid for his leg of the trip. That's all he cared about."
ReplyDeleteWhat is your question?
DeleteBaba did not like the bus driver Karim because he only did the job for money and nothing else.
Delete"Karim as making gutural choking sounds. spittle dripped from the corner of his mouth."
Deletewhy didn't the boy's father kill the russians?
ReplyDeleteI think it is because there are more Russians than himself.
DeleteWhat do you mean by that?
DeleteWhy is Hassan so against hurting Amir? When Amir was throwing apples *or whatever it was* at him, why didn't he fight back?
ReplyDeleteAmir threw pomegranates at Hassan and he didn't have anything to do back to Amir.
DeleteProbably, because he is a servant's son so if he goes against Amir and Amir tells on Baba. Hassan and Ali may not be able to work there.
DeleteAmir realized that Hassan had realized he saw him get raped.
ReplyDeleteHow does Amir feel no guilt after framing Hassan for stealing? And isn't he upset when Ali and Hassan leave the house even though Baba insists them to stay?
ReplyDeleteAmir was probably something that was necessary to go back to enjoying life with Baba, and still thought of Hassan as a slave deep down inside and considered it okay to blame him.
DeleteWhy was Baba risking his life so dangerously against the Russian soldier with the gun? He could have easily been killed so why risk it?
ReplyDeleteBaba was standing up for the married woman and, in his mind, it wouldn't be honorable to let the soldier rape her without objecting. I think that Baba always got what he wanted back in Kabul and still held that mindset when confronting the soldier.
Delete"Haven't I taught you anything" Baba is trying to teach Amir that no matter what happens you have to stand up for whats right.
ReplyDeleteI agree very strongly with you.
DeleteBut he Wants to get Baba's attention by doing it.
DeleteDoes Hassan want to leave?
ReplyDeleteI think he does.
DeleteI think he just wants a change.
DeleteDid Hassan really want to leave with Ali to go to Pakistan or was he forced?
ReplyDeleteI think he did, because he realized that he and Amir couldn't be friends anymore and had to get rid of the tension between them.
DeleteOn pg 103 when Ali gave Amir the Shahnamah, did he feel guilty about not telling the truth about what happened to Hassan?
ReplyDeleteWhat I'm wondering is why does Amir want Hassan to leave? Is he really that much of a wimp to not confront Hassan and talk out whatever they need to talk out? Pg 104 where Amir frames Hassan
ReplyDelete"I waited another thirty minutes. Then i knocked on Baba's door and told what i hoped would be the last in a long line of shameful lies"(hosseini 104)
ReplyDeleteI don't think he really has sins, but the scene will haunt him forever.
ReplyDeleteIf that was me and my best friend watched me get raped then i think he would be sinning because he is not stand up for others.
DeleteI think sins can be forgiven, but once you commit it, 'it's in the book'. What matters most is if you can forgive yourself.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree.
DeleteI personally feel that Baba is embarrassed of Amir. He thinks that Amir is still a young child. Like when they were going to Peshawar on the truck and Amir was getting car sick and he asked the driver to stop. "We are too close to Kabul" pg 111. Baba was very embarrassed by this. Which I don't understand why, Amir couldnt help himself.
ReplyDelete"Tell him I'll take a thousand of his bullets before I let this indecency take place." This is what a real man would say. Baba said this to the guard when the guard was going to shoot him. This really hit Amir because he just let Hassan get raped and didn't do anything. If Amir would have acted like Baba did in this situation, none of this would have happened.
ReplyDeleteDo you think that Hassan left his toys behind to rid himself of his past?
ReplyDelete"He'd left all his toys behind in the empty shack" page 108
DeleteMaybe because he wanted to leave a piece of himself behind. So Amir would remember Hassan.
DeleteIn chapter 8 page 107, Ali says that he and Hassan will leave and go to Hazarajat, where is Hazarajat, is it in Pakistan?
ReplyDelete"He said he'll enjoy putting a bullet in you almost as much as..."
ReplyDelete-Karim
Amir is really only out for himself. He feels bad what happens but he wont risk anything of his to protect them.
ReplyDeleteWhy did Amir treat Hassan so much differently and treat him like a peasant after what happened?
ReplyDeleteI think he felt Hassan was less of a person because of the rape. He felt that he can't talk to someone who was raped. He alienated Hassan because he thought he would have gotten hurt if he played with Hassan any longer.
Delete"His mouth twitched, and for a moment, I thought I saw a grimace. That was when U understood the depth of the pain I had cause..." I dont understand why Amir knew how much pain he cause but didnt say anything.
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